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	<title>Comments on: Highlights from BPMN 2.0: New Event Types</title>
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		<title>By: Rick Geneva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Geneva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 03:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim,
Thanks for the comment.  
I have to confess I&#039;m getting a bit behind on my postings.   I have to balance writing in this blog with writing in my next book &lt;em&gt;the Microguide to Processs Modeling in BPMN 2.0&lt;/em&gt;.  I&#039;m pushing hard to get it on the market by early Q2.  Initially my writing partner and I thought we&#039;d do just a quick update to the last book. But after digging deep into the BPMN 2.0 spec we realized that we are looking at a total rewrite.   Much has changed in the spec, and along with this changes our recommendations and patterns are changing as well.

I believe you are correct. I forgot to enclose the escalation path into the dashed subprocess (in-line subprocess).  Thank you for pointing this out.  I will correct it soon.  I could have said that I was planning to do this in a later post and my diagram was deliberate, but you would have called me out on that, wouldn&#039;t you?  ;-)   So maybe the next post in the series will be about subprocess, in-line subprocess, and stand-alone subprocess.  This topic needs to be addressed anyway.  So thanks for your contribution to my site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim,<br />
Thanks for the comment.<br />
I have to confess I&#8217;m getting a bit behind on my postings.   I have to balance writing in this blog with writing in my next book <em>the Microguide to Processs Modeling in BPMN 2.0</em>.  I&#8217;m pushing hard to get it on the market by early Q2.  Initially my writing partner and I thought we&#8217;d do just a quick update to the last book. But after digging deep into the BPMN 2.0 spec we realized that we are looking at a total rewrite.   Much has changed in the spec, and along with this changes our recommendations and patterns are changing as well.</p>
<p>I believe you are correct. I forgot to enclose the escalation path into the dashed subprocess (in-line subprocess).  Thank you for pointing this out.  I will correct it soon.  I could have said that I was planning to do this in a later post and my diagram was deliberate, but you would have called me out on that, wouldn&#8217;t you?  <img src='http://www.processmodeling.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />    So maybe the next post in the series will be about subprocess, in-line subprocess, and stand-alone subprocess.  This topic needs to be addressed anyway.  So thanks for your contribution to my site.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.processmodeling.info/posts/highlights-from-bpmn-2-0-new-event-types/comment-page-1/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rick,

Thanks for a helpful site, in as plain a language as one can get with BPMN ;-)

It&#039;s my understanding from the BPMN 2.0 spec (page 218) that &quot;The Escalation Start Event is only allowed for triggering an in-line Event Sub-Process.&quot; If that&#039;s the case, then I think in your &quot;Escalation Event Example (non-interrupting) picture above, you need to show the handle escalation within an Event Sub-process. Or do I misunderstand the spec?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rick,</p>
<p>Thanks for a helpful site, in as plain a language as one can get with BPMN <img src='http://www.processmodeling.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It&#8217;s my understanding from the BPMN 2.0 spec (page 218) that &#8220;The Escalation Start Event is only allowed for triggering an in-line Event Sub-Process.&#8221; If that&#8217;s the case, then I think in your &#8220;Escalation Event Example (non-interrupting) picture above, you need to show the handle escalation within an Event Sub-process. Or do I misunderstand the spec?</p>
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